father of John Runnion (born abt 1789 in WVA)

[Ira A. Runyan]

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Hello Everyone,

While trying to determine the father of John Runnion (born abt 1789 in WVA),
it occurred to me that he might be the same person as John Runyan; son of
William and Catherine (Custer) Runyan. With that said, does anyone know what
happened to the John Runyan who married Catherine Williams on 23 FEB 1808 in
Warren County, Ohio? Everything I come across makes me think that these men
are one and the same - my hunch is that Catherine Williams died between 1808
and 1812 as John Runnion and Elizabeth (born KY) had their first child abt
1813.

John Runnion and Elizabeth are listed on the 1850 IA census. According to
land records John Runnion died before December 4, 1853 - probably in Dallas
County, IA. Given that info I started to look for his wife Elizabeth. In
doing so I came across a listing for an Elizabeth Runnion age 65 in Valley
Springs, Van Buren, Arkansas. Does anyone know if Elizabeth moved to AR
after John's death?

1860 United States Federal Census > Arkansas > Van Buren > Valley
Name: Jno Runnion Age in 1860: 50 Birth Year: abt 1810 Birthplace: Ind
Home in 1860: Valley, Van Buren, Arkansas Gender: Male Post Office: Valley
Springs Value of real estate: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Jno Runnion 50
Elizabeth Runnion 65

Yes, I know the age of Jno Runnion isn't correct to be John Elliot Runnion,
but they are living next door to a family by the surname of Miller and John
and Elizabeth Runnion were living next to a family with the surname of
Miller on the 1850 census as well...coincidence???

Are there any other Miller and Runyan family connections aside from the fact
that Millers can be found in Warren County, OH during the same time frame
William and Catherine Runyan lived there?

On a better note I have figured out a branch on the Runyan family tree.

Name: John RUNNION
Birth: ABT. 1789 in Virginia
Marriage 1 Elizabeth UNKNOWN b: ABT. 1795 in Kentucky

Known Children per the Internet.

Solomon RUNYAN b: ABT. 1813 in Ohio
Franklin RUNYAN b: ABT. 1816 in Ohio
Elijah RUNYAN b: ABT. 1818 in Ohio
William RUNYAN b: 1823 in Ohio
Hanson RUNYAN b: ABT. 1824 in Ohio
Charlotte RUNYAN b: ABT. 1825 in Indiana
John Elliot RUNYAN b: JAN 1830 in Indiana
Betsey A. RUNYAN b: ABT. 1832 in Indiana

NOTE: According to the 1840 census John Runnion and wife Elizabeth had a
daughter who is not identified in the list of children above. On the 1850
Dallas, IA census, however, there is a "John HINER" age 22 and wife "Julian"
age 16 listed below the families of John and Elizabeth Runnion and John
Elliot (whom I agree with Connie is probably John Elliot Runyan). I believe
the "John" Hiner on the 1850 census is actually Andrew Jackson "Jack" Hiner
and his wife Julia Ann Runyan who were married on 21 Mar 1850 in Polk
County, Iowa. I don't think the census taker was particularly diligent as
Julia Ann is spelled "Julian" and he seems to have forgotten to write
Runnion after John Elliot.

Julia Ann (Runyan) Hiner consistently gave OH as her place of birth.
According to the 1900 census she was born in November of 1836. She married
Andrew Jackson Hiner on the 21 March 1850 when she was 16 years old. On the
1900 census she states she was married 18 years when she became a widow and
that she had seven children, four of whom were living in 1900.

Here is another family connection:

William Runyan (son of John & Elizabeth Runnion) born Sept 1823 in Warren
Co., OH and wife Nancy Jones had a son named Henry Thomas Runyan b: October
09, 1843 in Jasper Co., IA. Henry T. Runyan married Mary Charlotte Hiner.
William Runyan was a brother to Julia Ann (Runyan) Hiner making Henry T.
Runyan Julia's nephew. Mary Charlotte Hiner was Julia's niece via her
brother-in-law Jesse Hiner. (According to her obituary Mary Charlotte
(Hiner) Runyan met her husband, Henry Thomas Runyan, while staying at her
Uncle's residence is Des Moines.
(Note: Mary Charlotte Hiner was the daughter of Jesse Hiner, granddaughter
of Robert and Mahala (Calvert) Hiner. Both of Mary's parents died when she
was young. She can be found on the 1860 IA census living in the home of her
uncle Thomas Jefferson Hiner.)

Well, I am not sure where to go from here. I certainly would appreciate any
help and direction especially with the John Runyan and Catherine Williams
lead.

Best Regards,
Bess Antes
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[woodlief]

John Runnion b. Abt. 1789

1828 March 3 John (of Shelby County) (Kentucky?) purchased land in Shelby Co, IN src: BLM records

1830 Jackson Twp, Shelby, IN census: Probably our John Runion head of household: 1M und 5 John E; 2M 5 to 10 William & Harrison; 3M 10 to 15 Elijah, Isaac, Frank; 2M 15 to 20 Solomon & one unknown; 1M 40 to 50 John; 1F under 5 Charlotte; 1F 40 to 50 Elizabeth.

1834 October 20: John (of Shelby Co, IN) purchased land in Shelby Co, IN src: BLM records

1835 May 20: Solomon (of Shelby Co, IN) (son of John and Elizabeth Runnion/Runion/Runyan) purchased land in Shelby Co, IN - src: BLM records
Solomon purchased this land next to Henry Runyan, Jr. of Hamilton or Warren Co, OH (I believe this Henry, Jr. was the son of Henry, Sr. b. 1749 NJ who was a brother of William Runyan b. 1751 NJ). See: Shelby County Indiana genealogy site for diagrams of acreages sold. You will recognize many Warren County Ohio surnames.

1840 Parke Co, IN census: taken 1 June
John Runyon head of household: 1M 5 & und 10 Unk; 1M 10 & und 15 John E; 2M 15 & und 20 William & Harrison; 1M 20 & und 30 Elijah; 1M 50 & und 60 John; 1F und 5 Unk; 1F 5 & und 10 Betsy; 1F 10 & und 15 Charlotte; 1F 50 & und 60 Elizabeth.
When John's sons, Franklin and Elijah bought land in Vermillion County Indiana the record stated they were of Parke County Indiana; therefore, this is their father John in Parke County Indiana in 1840.

VA 1789; OH 1813 to abt. 1823; Warren Co, IN 1833; Shelby Co, IN 1834; Parke Co, IN 1840; Vermillion Co, IN 1841; short time in IL abt. 1848; IA 1850.

In Kansas Forgotten Settlers a John and Eliza Jane Runyan are mentioned in Vol 11, p.80, 94, 133, 134. Could John and Elizabeth have moved to Kansas?

1850 Dallas Co, IA census: taken 6 Oct - these people are children of John and Elizabeth (listed below).

Dwelling #917
Runnion, Solomon; 37 b. OH, farmer (Solomon and Nancy A Layman Mar: 23 July 1837 Shelby Co, IL); Nancy A 32 b. OH Mary 12 b. IN; Rachael E; 10 b. IN; John L? or D?; 8 b. IN; Charles F 6 b. IN Harrison A 4 b. IN; Amanda A 2 b. IL

Dwelling #918
Miller, Martin; 27 b. IN, farmer; Charlotte (Runyan) 25 b. IN; Mary C 6 b. IN; Fidelia 2 b. IA. This family moved on to Oregon.

Dwelling #919
Runnion, John; 61 b. VA, farmer; Elizabeth 55 b. KY; Betsey A 18 b. IN. Betsey (Elizabeth) married and moved on to Kansas.

Dwelling #920
Runnion, Franklin; 34 b. OH, farmer; Mary 20 b. IN; Francis M 2 b. IL

Dwelling #921
Runnion, Elijah; 32 b. OH, farmer; Martha 6 b. IN; Nancy L 4 b. IN

Dwelling #922
John Elliot Runnion 22 b. IN, farmer; Nancy 20 b. SC; Hector Sinclair 9/12 b. IA

10 Mar 1852: Age: 63
U.S. General Land Office Records at Iowa City, Iowa: John Runyan of Dallas County, Iowa: Sec 34, Twp 81-N; Range 28-W, Meridian 5th PM, Dallas County, Iowa. 40 acres. Is this father or son?

I have also thought this John Runnion b. abt. 1789 was the same John who married Catherine Williams. But I can find no death record for Catherine which would indicate that Elizabeth was John's second wife.

I also think this John Runnion could be a son of Henry Runyan b. 1749 of Hamilton County, OH. Henry and Mary BUSH Hagle married 11 Mar 1784 in Harrison Co, VA (now WVA). I can find no listings of any children being born before about 1791 in Kentucky. (This part of Virginia that became the state of Kentucky in 1792.) re: the Kentucky reference of the 1828 land purchase in Shelby County, IN by John. OR - maybe - neither of the above is his parent!

[runyanjeff]

Hello,

The Franklin Runyan listed on here is my Great Great Great Grandpa. his son is Benjamin Franklin Runyan and his son is Lloyd Ruben Runyan and his son is Melvin Lloyd Runyan. This is the line I've been looking into and would like to help research. I have all their spouses, dates, etc.

[bess13]

Hello again,
It has been a while since I made my initial post. I descend from Julia Ann (Runnion/Runyan) and Andrew Jackson Hiner. I have taken the FTDNA Autosomal test and matched to a descendant of Isaac Newton Runyan (1816 -1866) which proved my theory that the Julian Hiner listed on the 1850 census is Julia Ann (Hiner) Runyan. Julia Ann Hiner and Andrew Jackson Hiner married 21 Mar 1850. Julia Hiner’s maiden name is spelled differently on every single document I have come across: Runnion/Runyan/Runyun etc.

On the Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 > 1854 > Polk > Saylor
A.J. Hiner 2 males 2 females 1 voter
In same column are:
Isaac N. Runyan 3 males 2 females
Elijah Runyan 1 male 3 females
William Runyan 3 males 3 females

Iowa State Census Collection, 1836-1925 > 1856 > Polk > Delaware
Family Number 30
John E Runion age 26, male, married, 5 yr state resident, born VA, native voter, militia, owns land Nancy Runion age 28, female, married, 5 years resident of state, born SC Hector
C Runion age 6, male, 5 years resident of state, born IL Emlia J Runion age 2, female, 2 yr state resident, born IA

Family Number 31
A.J. Hiner age 25, male, 6 yr state resident, born IL, native voter, militia, owns land
Julia Ann Hiner age 22, female, 7 yr state resident, born IL
Catherine Hiner age 5, 5 yr state resident, born IA
Samuel R. Hiner age 3, 3 yr state resident, born IA Family


Number 32
Solman Runion age 42 male, married, 6 yr state resident, born OH, native voter, militia, owns land
Nancy A Runion age 37
female, married, 6 yr state resident, born OH
Mary J. Runion age 18 female, 6 yr state resident, born IA
Rachel E. Runion age 16,female, 6 yr state resident, born IA
Charles F Runion age 12, male 6 yr state resident, born IA
Harrison A Runion age 10, male, 6yr state resident, born IA
Amandia Runion age 7, female, 6 yr state resident, born ILL
Linds/Lunds? Runion age 4, male, 4 yr state resident, born ILL
Wm H.P. Runion age 2, male, 2 yr state resident, born IA


1880
Julia Hiner age 44, born OH, Father born VA, Mother born KY, Widow.

1900 IOWA Polk County, Ward 5, Des Moines, #403 2nd Street, Series T-623, Roll 454, page 193
Hiner, Julia, white female born November 1836, age 63, widow, married 18 years, had 7 children, four living, born OH, Father born VA, Mother born KY. Can read, cannot write. Head of House. Owns her home, Free of Mortgage.

Julia is consistant about the place of birth of her father being VA and her mother being KY. Also, I have John Runnion as having ten kids from 1814 to 1836. It would seem to me that having that many kids over 22 year might require two wives…
I would like to compare notes regarding the family… and I was wondering if anyone else has taken an Autosomal aka “Family Finder” test?
Bess
ronbessantes at yahoo dot com

[bess13]

Note the names of Julia Ann (Runnion/Runyan) Hiner's first two children: Catherine Hiner born 1851 and Samuel R. Hiner born 1853. I believe that both children died before 1870. Did Julia Ann name her kids after her possible Mother or Grandmother; Catherine Custer?

I have NOT found the family of Andrew Jackson "Jack" Hiner and Julia (Runnion) Hiner on the 1860 census. PLEASE if you have (or can) tell me as it would clarify a lot! Also, Andrew Jackson Hiner was lynched/killed in Iowa in 1868... I am pretty certain the family was in IA in 1860 as they never left IA (once they got there) from what I can tell.

I guess I need to track down where all of John Runnion's kids and see where they say their parents were born. If you know please help...

Thanks again, Bess.

[jackie]

I am tracing a Jesse Runyan who I believe might also be a son of this John. Jesse was in Shelby County, IN in 1840 and then moved to Vermillion County, IN where he appears in the census records between 1850 and 1880. He was born about 1810 and died in 1889 (in Vermillion County). In 1844 John and Elizabeth Runyan of Vermillion County sold land to Jesse. The deed was witnessed by Isaac Runyan. The deed is a little hard to find since it wasn't recorded until 1863, long after John and Elizabeth left for Iowa.
In the 1880 census of Vermillion County, Jesse's father is said to have been born in Virginia (which would match John) and his mother in Kentucky (which would match Elizabeth).
Does anyone have any more information on this Jesse?
Thanks