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Post by JC on Aug 19, 2003 9:42:50 GMT -5
Norman, On your web site, you state the following: “The family of John Runyon and Anne ? ________ (Goodpasture ?) This name is NOT PROVEN at this time.
Parents: John ? RUNYON & ________ ________
Born: __ _ca 1740, __________, __________ (Probably NJ or PA)
Married: __ _ca 1760, __________, __________
Died: __ ___ 1830, Brocks Gap, Rockingham County, Virginia
Buried: __ ___ 1830, __________ Cemetery, Brocks Gap, Rockingham County, Virginia
NOTE 1: In the first known record of John he was called John Runying when he obtained land in Brocks Gap on 13 Dec 1753. John may have been a minor (under the age of 21) at that date.
NOTE 2: This 1753 land purchase was a transfer of an apparent land grant made to a Jacob GOODPASTURE - currently, the only known GOODPASTURE in America at that time.
NOTE 3: It appears that John may have left the Brocks Gap area in the spring of 1754 due to the onset of the French & Indian War. If that is the case then he would not have returned until the early to mid-1760s. Where he went is unknown
NOTE 4: John Runyon was ordained as a deacon of the Smiths Creek Baptist Church, near New Market, Virginia, on 3 March 1781. Later John, also, served as a deacon for the Linville Creek Baptist Church south of Broadway, Virginia”I’m confused.... Are you saying that a Runyon possibly named John Runying purchased land from Jacob Goodpasture, and that this John Runying has a son named John Runyon who married a woman named Anne who may have been the daughter of Jacob Goodpasture, and they in turn had a son also named John?  |
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Post by Mary Wise on Aug 20, 2003 5:37:44 GMT -5
From the above, it appears that it is not even known that the original RUNYON in this line was named John (see the question mark after the name John).
It looks like another "brick wall' that the Runyon/Runyan family seems to have in abundance....
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Post by Ira A. Runyan on Aug 21, 2003 16:29:47 GMT -5
I’m confused.... Are you saying that a Runyon possibly named John Runying purchased land from Jacob Goodpasture, and that this John Runying has a son named John Runyon who married a woman named Anne who may have been the daughter of Jacob Goodpasture, and they in turn had a son also named John? John Runyon, Sr. is the person who may have obtained land in Brocks Gap on 13 Dec 1753. This 1753 land purchase was a transfer of an apparent land grant made to a Jacob GOODPASTURE - currently, the only known GOODPASTURE in America at that time. (John Runyon,Sr. may not have been old enouth to purchase land in 1753, thus it may have been his father who purchased the land.) John Runyon, Sr. married a woman named Anna, whose last name may have been Goodpasture, but this name is NOT PROVEN at this time. The father of John Runyon, Sr. is unknown, but Norman has reason to believe that his name may have also been John. Norman in January, 1999 sent me an E-mail that in part stated: "The reason that I think that the father of my "John Runyon, Sr." was, also, named John is that the 1st record that I have of a Runyon, in my line, is when a John Runyon (Runying) obtained land from a Jacob Goodpasture in Dec 1753. Goodpasture had obtained a land grant, in Brocks Gap (which was in Augusta County then) and he, immediately, transferred it to Runyon. My John, Sr. had his 1st known child Elizabeth ca. 1761 and I have documented proof that he died in 1830. It is highly unlikely that my John, Sr. was old enough to purchase land in 1753. I'm guessing that he was born ca. 1740. I have no records of my Runyons for the time period 1754-1761 but that could be because the French & Indian War started in the spring of 1754 and, according to the Linville Creek Baptist Church records, many of the people in the church left the area until the conflict was over. The Runyons may have been among those who evacuated. In any case, the Runyon /Runion family has continued to live on that same property to this day so it looks to me like the John who bought the property would have to have been the father of my John, Sr." While we trying to clear up confusion, I direct your attention to a warning that Norman has on the first page of his web site which states:
"WARNING!!: You may encounter information, on the internet and elsewhere, which claims to set forth an "ancestry" of this John Runyon. Such information usually includes such names as Anna Barefoot, Barefoot/Isaac Runyan, Prudence Smalley, Peter Runyon and/or Providence Blackford. If you do come across such claims, it would be in your best interest to disregard them. They are not true and there is no known original source documentation for any of said claims. "Anna Barefoot" was a fictional character. All of the other persons did exist but they have no proven relationship to this John Runyon."Without getting into details about the source of the misinformation, the following is an example of the information Norman is referring to. THE FOLLOWING IS TOTALLY FALSE, AND SHOULD BE DISREGARDED[/size][/color] Name: John Runyon
Sex: M
Birth: 15 AUG 1705 in Piscataway, Middlesex, NJ
Death: 1797 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA Burial: 1797 Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA
Father: Peter Runyon b: 1 JUL 1680 in Piscataway, Middlesex, NJ
Mother: Providence Blackford b: 1683 in Piscataway, Middlesex, NJ
Marriage 1 Prudence Smalley b: 12 MAR 1698 in New Jersey
· Married: ABT 1725 in New Jersey
Children
Morris Runyon b: ABT 1727 in New Jersey
Henry Runyon b: ABT 1729 in New Jersey
daughter Runyon b: ABT 1732 in New Jersey
Marriage 2 Anna Barefoot b: ABT 1709 in Tunnis, NJ
· Married: 1757 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA
Children
Isaac Barefoot Runyon b: 1757 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA
John Runyon b: ABT 1762 in Rockingham, VA
Jacob Runyon b: 1768 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA
Mary Runyon b: 1770 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA
Nancy Anna Runyon b: 1772 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA
Anderson Runyon b: 11 FEB 1775 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA
Elizabeth Runyon b: 1779 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA
Daniel Runyon b: 1780 in Brock's Gap, Rockingham, VA |
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Post by Norman L Runyon on Aug 21, 2003 19:02:23 GMT -5
Basically, the above information, as provided by Ira, is correct. The only difference is that I no longer believe that the person who obtained the land in 1753 was the father of John Runyon, Sr.
Rather, I believe that it was John Runyon, Sr. himself who obtained the land and that he was under the age of 21 and, therefore, could not obtain the grant himself - although he could legally own the land. There appear to have been different restrictions on receiving grants as compared to actually owning land. Later developments would tend to indicate that Jacob Goodpasture financed the purchase of the land for John.
Traditions passed down through 2 branches of the family would indicate that the wife of John Runyon, Sr. was Anne Goodpasture but concrete evidence has not yet surfaced. If John Runyon, Sr. was married to Anne Goodpasture then her father, by default, would have to have been the above mentioned Jacob Goodpasture since there were no other Goodpasture families around.
As for the parentage of John Runyon, Sr. - I have no clue at this time.
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